Can you find health in your soul? How is our physical health related to your mind and soul? in this remarkable interview, Gina takes us through a journey into the deepest realm of wellness. Our emotions, thought patterns and spirituality plays a central role in curing the incurable diseases.
Here is the interview transcript
Jeff: Can you tell me a bit about Centripetal Force Studio, and why you started it, and where you passion lies within the studio?
Gina: I started Centripetal Force Studio because I thought that there was a new energy that needed to be brought to physical therapy. People were coming to me for chronic pain one client after another, through my door where I was in a different location across the street actually. And so, they kept coming in. I didn’t understand why they kept getting chronic pain. I am a cash-pay facility. I didn’t accept any insurance contracts or anything like that, so I would superbill my clients, and I had this big, pretty machine, pilates machine in the window, and everybody was like, “What’s that?” They were more intrigued with that than anything.
But my mindset was why would I come to you as a physical therapist and pay cash when I have my physical therapy benefits? Why would I do that? And so of course, in the beginning and being a young, physical therapist, it played with my mind a little bit. Was I doing the right thing? I wasn’t sure, but I just had a calling, and there was a special person in my life that said, “Be the best physical therapist you can be, and the money will come.”
So I just continued to work with these people, and I was in a very small space. I was behind closed doors, and I was concocting my own recipe back there. I didn’t know what I was doing exactly. I just knew it was pilates. It was this movement. It was micro-movement. It was connecting people to their core. Each time we get in that vicinity of the core, which was the abdominals and everything, they started telling me about their life, and I thought that there was something very interesting about that. So I wanted to learn more.
One of my favorite people in the world and favorite authors, Caroline Myss, I had many of her books. One of my favorites is Anatomy of the Spirit. I wanted to learn from her, so there you go. I land in her class for two years. First year is in Chicago and Austin the second year, and learning about energy medicine. As soon as I got there, she was like, “I’m going to do a book signing at the end of the course.” I would go up, and I realized that I went to a book signing in L.A. five years prior, and I realized she had already signed my book.
I was like, “Whoa.” It was just this moment, and I bought some other books. I grabbed this one, and it’s her book called The Creation of Health. I said, “Would you sign this one?” and she was like, “Of course,” and she wrote, “For Gina. Love, Caroline.” I read it, and I just completely started bawling. I was like, “Oh my gosh. I’m right where I need to be.”
So I kind of brought those tools back over the years, and I started developing this emotional map of the body and started understanding where this energy lie within the physical body.
I was able to connect to it. Each year, it was getting better. I was honing in on it. People were coming in. It was a little tricky at first on how am I going to get people to understand this. I don’t want to be the woo-woo girl. I’m not any of that. I’ll just see what’s wrong. I’m going to go in and beat around the bush for many years in the beginning, and I’m learning now how to just use it as I need it when people are ready.
I just saw the need, and people came in, and they were healing quickly, very fast, and it’s been a neat ride. So for those first few years, it was like, “This is what we need in healthcare, but how do I do this?”
Jeff: Yes, yes. There are, as you say, keywords. There are key ideas that penetrate everybody. One of the words that I’ve learned in the last couple of years is how to take disease and say it properly: dis-ease. How do you feel about how we create disease in our body? It’s what it is. Our body is diseased, right?
Gina: Absolutely. My tagline is “find your center” when I first started, and now, it’s kind of been my tagline over for Empowered Health Foundation is finding health in your soul. It was the first one that came to me.
All it is is our body comes away from center. At first it breaks down, and it’s a small, little, minor ache or pain, and then it becomes bigger and bigger, and our body will shift itself away from that pain because we don’t want to feel it. And so it’ll shift, and it’ll shift again. And it’ll shift to where they come in with this chronic pain, and now, it’s down into their ankle where it actually really started at their back.
What happens a lot of time as I work backwards, and we go right back to the source of where it all started, there’s a timeline with experiences, life experiences. And so that’s where it’s become. It’s the physical body, and connecting it to our life experiences, and making those connections, and connecting all the dots for them.
A lot of them had had different kinds of psychological therapies and different things, and they know. They know a lot of what they’re traumas or their experiences, negative thought patterns are. But it’s like, “Can it really deposit into my physical body?” Yes.
Jeff:Yes, it’s a new concept. It’s something to understand, but it makes perfect sense intuitively. One of the things that you teach is taking responsibility for your life, for your feelings and getting in touch with, as you say, your center. How is that achieved through exercise?
Gina: Well, when someone comes in, it’s really taking them on the journey through their body. I am not a psychologist, so I don’t sit them down and just, “Let’s talk about your pain.” A lot of times, what I found out is that they’ve already done that. They’ve already done it, and they kind of tapped out. They’re like, “Okay, that’s enough.” So, I’m going to take you into your body that’s tight, and it’s immobile. It doesn’t really move that well, so they’re uncomfortable.
It’s this fear pattern, “I don’t really know how to move there,” or maybe they have pain there, whatever it is, and it’s realizing that it’s them. It’s the patterns that they’ve locked inside their own body. Yes, there are different traumas and experiences that we can blame our parents or whatever experiences that have happened in our lives, but there is a place of healing and then a place of moving on. We can’t get stuck in the victimhood of things because all we’re doing is victimizing our own lives. A lot of people stay there, and it hinders their life.
Jeff: And a lot of people are resistant to change in the beginning. Is this true? And this is a new way for people to—I don’t know—pattern out of that resistance? Is physical movement a way to—
Gina: It’s a nice, easy way to move into things. They’re coming in just to move, and that’s all it is. For me, if that’s what they’re meeting me with, I’m okay with that.
I’ve taught my other instructors, and one of the gals that works with me, she was like, “I know exactly what they need.” I was like that. I remember. You do know exactly what they need, but it’s everybody’s life in their own time.
So I realized that I have to meet my clients where they’re at and take them on the journey. One day, they come in, and they blow me away. I’m like, “Oh my gosh, I’ve been waiting for years for that to happen, and it finally does,” and it helps me to keep moving on further into that.
But it is, it’s a journey into their body, and somehow, they sink into it, and they realize it’s them.
Gina: It’s their physical body. It’s not their mother’s, their fathers, their siblings, whoever. It’s their own life. It’s their own body map.
Jeff: Yeah. On that thread, would you mind explaining about psychosomatic or the mind-spirit-body relationship and what that means, what you’ve learned about that, and what you try to bring to the sessions?
Gina: Well, I really try to see different mental thought patterns versus the spiritual thought patterns. They are really different, and I find myself, as a practitioner, getting more into the spiritual component because I do have to decipher them, because sometimes, it’s just on a mental level where they don’t have a lot of self-worth.
So, okay. It’s trying to build them up, so a lot of times, I’ll use gyrotronics to open the body. It’s the three-dimensional system. So if they’re tight in certain areas, we’re going to open everything up. We’re going to work in all the different diagonal patterns to open them, and a lot of times, I can see them unwinding. One day, they come in, and there’s this vulnerable sense, and I’m like, “A-hah, they’re there.” So then I usually use some kind of core connecting or pilates usually, and then I plug them in, and then I start to build them back up.
So that’s kind of a central method of how I do things, and that’s more of the mental connection there of really trying to unwind that pattern and build them back up with this positive experience.
But then there’s a whole another spiritual component where sometimes someone’s coming in, which is actually today, and it’s on a whole different plane. Yes, there’s a mental thought pattern there, but this is a migraine, chronic migraines that are coming because he was inside the womb when his mother was being physically abused by the father. And so this spiritual component comes in of like, “Whoa. Wait a second. We need some centering going on here. Here’s your meditation. I want you to lie down, and I want you to”—you know those balls that you could put your hand up at the top of the ball on your feet, and you’re like going all over the place? That’s what I picture for him at this time of what he’s going through.
He says, “Wow, that really does explain so much of my headaches, and I’m always dizzy.” I said, “Okay, so when you get that headache next time, I want you to lie down. I want you to start breathing through your nose and not your mouth. I want you to picture yourself in that ball, but it stops on your feet or on the ground. You’re rooted. From there, you’re going to start to breathe and say, ‘I am safe.’ I want you to spiritually say to your father, ‘Stop it.’ I want you to say to your mom, ‘Mother, you deserve better.’” There’s a healing that goes on there.
It translates into physical form too. All of a sudden, he may get a call from his father for the first time. “Hi. We’ve never spoke.” Mother may finally see her self-worth and be able to move forward in life and not carry all that pain, and they can have a better mother-son connection. He can also have a better connection with his twin brother, where there is no connection. That’s a spiritual side, and that actually really goes into my foundation. That’s where I want to go with that angle. But they’re kind of separate in my mind, the way I work with them.
Jeff: Yeah. That’s fascinating too. We’re interested at PlentyWell.com to bring Eastern medicine, Eastern health, thought, preventive, medicine, and combine it with the Western—did I say it right? Eastern and Western medical thought. Not why are they so different, but for instance, why has the health industry or the insurance industry in particular, since it’s such a hot topic now, resisted preventive maintenance, preventive health, when we all know—well, we don’t all know—we’re learning that it saves money and time and builds a better future for everybody health-wise. Why has there been that resistance you think?
Gina: Well, over the years—I’ve been doing this for about 12 years now—my number one comment that I get from my clients is, “Where were you 20 or 30 years ago?” It’s funny because each person kept saying that, and they were the ones that are more middle-aged. They’re just like, “Why wasn’t I told?” because it was like pattern after pattern, just broke down, broke down, broke down, and we only fix that one, little area, but we don’t go back to the root. The root is where all the healing occurs, and it actually occurs really quickly.
I think with the preventative thing, it is my approach, and then we come in when we’re just a little bit off center. “Let me go in and get myself a tune up, and let me go get centered again so I can live my life happy, and I feel on track.” But we don’t, and we wait until we’re practically broken to walk through the door. That’s what’s happening, is that over the years, people have walked in, and they’re just falling down on the ground.
I had a lady walk in with cancer. She just lies on my table, and I’m just questioning myself so I’d learn and evolve, like, “Why are they waiting so long?” But it’s our mindset of healthcare, and I do not think we can—
We can’t quantify energy. People are not feeling good, and they’re looking on… we can’t see energy on an MRI, or an X-ray, or brain scans, any of that stuff, but they know something is off. That is energy. How do you teach that? It becomes this something that we have to teach people, the autonomy of just believing that they can heal themselves.
And then you go into a whole topic of it’s a bigtime business, flood of money. You fracture your elbow, you go to the doctor, he gives you pain medicine, and a cast, or whatever it is, but then all of a sudden, you have some shoulder pain after that. You go back. “Okay. Well, if it’s chronic now, your options are medicine, surgery, or an injection. Those are really your three options.” From there, they rarely are prescribed physical therapy anymore. And then they’re on the table, and they’re cut, and then all of a sudden, it opens up a can of worms for a whole other slew of problems to come out.
It’s really unnecessary. There are so many times. I’ve had several clients that come in that we stop the surgeries. You don’t need that.
I’m not saying they don’t need it because I had a client that had stage four arthritic hip, and we went in for a few years and did so much work to uncoil all of the muscles around it where it was just a straight fix to go in there and replace the head of the femur and to go in there and that goes back to skin. It’s amazing. But we had to unwind the body first to prepare it for surgery. So it was so easy to go in and fix it and then build them back up. He’s golden. He’s great. He’s living a great life.
It’s difficult to understand why exactly why they can’t. I think it’ll be so much cheaper. Quite honestly, I think it may give people sessions for massage therapy, pilates, gyrotonic. They can use 12 in a year, once a month, whatever, just to come back at these centers, and energy therapy, and those kind of things. People would feel so much more centered and happier at work. Families would be happier. It would be fantastic.
Jeff: Are you saying awareness should bring change? As you say, it’s a big business, but do you see some of it changing. I know we both hope.
Gina: I do. I know I definitely hope. Pilates studios are popping up everywhere, and I know that they’re doing great things, and that’s their hope for that. Gyrotonic isn’t quite as popular of studios, but you see it mixed in with the pilates studios for sure. I see people coming in.
I think it’s where we’re at a change of a revolution of the mindset. The mindset has to change. I think they would go and spend that money on dinner, or on clothing, or a date, whatever. It’s like why would I spend money for that? Because we just wait for something to happen. That’s just kind of how we think. So it’s really this education, and the more we talk, and the more videos like this, and all the awareness that you’re doing I think will continue to educate people.
Jeff: Yup. Yeah, me too. That’s our mission here. Let’s talk a little bit about the Empowered Health Foundation. I know it’s obviously a passion for you. As you say, it brings the spiritual side, maybe some more of the mental side. Can you introduce us to your vision there and how you see the future with Empowered Health Foundation?
Gina: Empowered Health Foundation, it feels like my soul’s mission. I never thought I would start a non-profit, but as I was working as a physical therapist, I had this one client. She would come in and tell me about her daughter’s Crohn’s disease. I was hearing that she was going everywhere: natural medicine, Western medicine. She tried everything. There were something deep down inside of me that said, “You can help her. Offer your service.” It was a little different than physical therapy. It added this energetic stuff. I wasn’t quite sure how they were going to take it.
Finally, one day, I got enough courage, and I did. So we started working with her. She did a lot of journaling. I have to go through a ceremony to get rid of all of the energy that’s connected to whatever the trauma—and there was.
One of my other clients, who is president of a big non-profit, “You know, Gina, you don’t just have to give your services away. You can actually start a non-profit and get paid for your services that you’re giving. I was like, “Oh okay. I have no idea.” I started. I’m like, “What am I going to call it? Okay, Empowered Health Foundation it is.”
What happened was I began to gift the service, and there was a magic in giving that service to someone out of just from my heart, and in turn, is then giving me the story, because without their story, I don’t have anything. It seemed as though it’s pointing in the direction of spiritual healthcare. It’s where the spirit is in crisis. Really, what your pain is is the message, and it’s trying to tell you something, but we’re not listening, or we’re just not educated that way.
So Empowered Health Foundation is that additive that we can add into healthcare, especially cancer. I mean it’s one of the biggest diseases going on right now. Anger, guilt, resentment, shame, and grief are your five major emotions behind cancer. When you look at those and figure out those threads and those patterns within the body, it really does uncover a lot of the pain. The body actually heals itself.
Jeff: That’s great. How can we participate in this foundation if we’re interested in getting involved, if we want to spread the word, if we want to help in some way? What’s some of the stuff that’s going on within the foundation?
Gina: Right now, currently, I just had a big meeting this week, made some connection with how we’re going to build the foundation, like building the structure. I just have this little, grass roots vision that I’m like, “Hey,” but I need help at this point to figure out how do we move forward from here. I am dividing it into three sections, and we’re working with kids, adults, and the older population. And so actually, it’s going to be end of life. We’re calling it Reign Core, Reconnection, and Transcendence.
Reign Core is working with kids, and we’re helping them connect to their core muscles through coordination of proprioceptive activities in school, and I’m correlating those with reading ability, classroom behavior. What we found is that the kids that are the least coordinated, least amount of core strength, they’re having the most problems in class. We go each week. We teach them jump roping, hopping, skipping, side gray walking, different running and gait patterns, and they’re like tightening up, and they’re becoming more aware, and conscious, and they love it.
We’re doing a little film there on how we can prevent this to hopefully along the school district, and hopefully they can get involved.
What I just described about where the spirit is in crisis, people can come and have this additive healthcare of spiritual healthcare in their repertoire of treatment. Maybe it does go with the Western medicine. I don’t know. It’s just kind of right now this is what our service that we offer.
And then there’s this whole bit that we’re really just trying to get off the ground as end of life, and how it’s that sunset years where the sun’s starting to go down, and how do we prepare ourselves to die. We got to make sure that our bodies are at peace. The unfinished business is taken care of, and we leave our family members feeling good, and we celebrate our lives, and that we heal that generational emotion one after another.
It’s like mom had breast cancer, but she couldn’t put up the boundaries with everyone. She gave too much, and she gave all of her heart energy, and it leaked from the breast tissue. And so we’re worried about daughter, but if daughter has inherited the same female inability to draw boundaries, she has a bigger chance of getting breast cancer. So we’re hoping by that point, she realizes, “I wish I would have drew more boundaries. I wish I would have known how to stand up for myself. I wish I would have known these things.” She can hand that over to her daughter, and she can have a great life, and we can start all over again as a society.
We’re at the end of a lot of generational pain. That’s where the energy therapy comes in. It’s to clean that energy, clean it, get it out. It’s all pooled, stagnant energy that needs to be reset.
Jeff: Yeah. Love it. Your vision is inspired, and it’s complete. I love it because of its completeness. I want to say a couple of your websites here. CForce.com?
Jeff: CForceStudio.com and then you have CentripetalLife.com.
Gina: I do. That’s my blog.
Gina: CentripetalLife.com is my blog, and we still have CentripetalForceStudio.com. And then I have EmpoweredHealthFoundation.org.
Jeff: Yes, the EmpoweredHealthFoundation.org. We will have this all in our notes where people can see. Any other ways that you can be contacted? I know there’ll be a lot of interest just maybe some more inspiration or some more questions for you.
Gina: It’s Centripetal Life actually. Centripetal Force Studio is the name of the page. It’s Centripetal Force Studio. And there’s Empowered Health Foundation. So there are two pages.
Jeff: Yes. Good, good. Thank you very much, Gina, for your valuable time. Thanks for all of your work from all of us. Have a great time on your Sabbatical. We’ll all be wondering what happens, what comes out of that. It’ll be very exciting. Thank you very much.
Gina: I’m excited too. Thank you. I really appreciate you contacting me. I’m flattered actually. Thanks.